Undaunted by weeks of duds, exponents of the public-private campaign to neutralize Justice Samuel Alito on the U.S. Supreme Court believe they’ve finally got their hands on a bombshell: an audio recording wherein Alito can be heard both expressing a hope for healing in the face of political polarization and acknowledging that in the culture war underway, one side might ultimately prevail.
This time around, the sensational headlines were made not by Obama hagiographer Jodi Kantor at the New York Times but rather by leftist blogger Lauren Windsor, a self-described “advocacy journalist” on the team at Robert Creamer’s Democrat-aligned
Democracy Partners who helped the Lincoln Project stage a fake white supremacist rally in 2021 to smear then-candidate Glenn Youngkin ahead of the Virginia gubernatorial election.
Pretending to be a religious conservative at the Supreme Court Historical Society’s
annual dinner on June 3, Windsor approached and surreptitiously recorded brief conversations with Justice Alito and his wife, Martha-Ann Alito.
As with the
various flag stories pushed by the Times and other liberal publications, Windsor’s apparent aim — and that of Rolling Stone, the libelous publication first provided the audio recordings, which are now on X — is to paint Alito as ideologically compromised and incapable of dealing with cases related to the 2020 election and the Jan. 6 protests as well as regarding the question of former President Donald Trump’s immunity in U.S. v. Donald Trump.
The trouble for Windsor and other Democratic-aligned public-private campaigners is, once again, that notwithstanding their framing and manufactured hoopla, the
recording is relatively benign. In fact, it undermines the public-private campaigner’s previous narrative and reveals Justice Alito has no aspirations of weaponizing the high court, even against criminal leakers.
Windsor, taping Alito without his consent — legal in D.C., which is a
one-party consent state — suggested at the outset that her imaginary husband implored her to “tell Justice Alito that he is a fighter and we appreciate him and he has all the grit.”
After blowing more smoke, Windsor raised the matter of political polarization and how to repair it.
“Considering everything that’s been going on in the past year, you know, as a Catholic and as someone who, like, really cherishes my faith, I just don’t know. I don’t know that we can negotiate with the left in the way that needs to happen for the polarization to end,” said Windsor. “I think that it’s a matter of like, winning.”
Justice Alito said, “I think you’re probably right. On one side or the other, one side or the other is going to win. I don’t know.”
“I mean, there can be a way of working a way of living together peacefully,” continued the justice. “But it’s difficult, you know, because there are differences on fundamental things that really can’t be compromised. They really can’t be compromised. It’s not like you’re going to split the difference.”
In response to Justice’s Alito’s observation regarding the incommensurability between contemporary liberal and rightist worldviews, Windsor stated, “It’s just, I think that the solution really is like winning the moral argument. Like, people in this country who believe in God have got to keep fighting for that, to return our country to a place of godliness.”
Justice Alito responded, “I agree with you. I agree with you.”
‘It’s easy to blame the media, but I do blame them because they do nothing but criticize us and so they have really eroded trust in the court.’
Upon the justice’s
supposedly controversial affirmation that the country should aspire toward spiritual purity and virtue, the remainder of the first audio clip concluded with Windsor bloviating.
In a second recording, apparently taken last year, Windsor again asked Justice Alito about how to remedy political polarization in America, to which he responded, “I wish I knew. I don’t know. It’s easy to blame the media, but I do blame them because they do nothing but criticize us and so they have really eroded trust in the court.”
“I don’t know, I really don’t know,” continued Justice Alito. “American citizens in general need to work on this, to try to heal this polarization because it’s very dangerous. I do believe it’s very dangerous.”
When Windsor began to beat around the bush about possible judicial activism, Justice Alito said, “I don’t think it’s something we can do. … We have a very defined role and we need to do what we’re supposed to do. But this is a bigger problem. This is way above us.”
Later in the secretly recorded 2023 conversation, Windsor asked whether the radical who leaked a draft of the
Dobbs decision would ever be “ferreted out.” Justice Alito dispassionately reminded Windsor that such work is neither the business of the high court nor within its authority.
“We’re not a law enforcement agency, you know,” said Justice Alito. “So, law enforcement agencies can issue subpoenas and get search warrants and all that sort of thing, but we can’t do that. So, you know, our [U.S.] marshall, she did as much as she could do. But it was limited.”
While in both secretly recorded conversations, Justice Alito said nothing compromising, Rolling Stone
suggested, “Alito’s comments add to the controversy surround the conservative justice.”
Liberal publications, likely cognizant they were serving up another nothing-burger, leaned on Windsor’s
surreptitious recording of a conversation with Martha-Ann Alito at the same June 3 event last week — even though they ultimately reveal Justice Alito works to maintain neutrality as well as the perception of neutrality while respecting his wife’s autonomy.
Windsor expressed sympathy for the ordeal the liberal media had put Mrs. Alito through, to which the justice’s wife said, “It’s okay! It’s okay! … It’s okay because if they come back to me, I’ll get them. I’m gonna be liberated, and I’m gonna get them.”
Mrs. Alito clarified that by this, she means that she may seek to hold the liberal media accountable for perceived defamation.
Windsor asked about the manufactured scandal over the inverted flag at her house and Appeal to Heaven flag at her beach house. Mrs. Alito made clear that contrary to the presumption of “femi-Nazis,” she is an agential woman whom Justice Alito “never controls,” thereby bolstering Justice Alito’s previous statements following the New York Times’ false flag reports.
Later in the conversation, Windsor noted, “They’re persecuting you and you’re like a convenient stand-in for anybody who’s religious.”
“Look at me. Look at me. I’m German, from Germany. My heritage is German. You come after me, I’m gonna give it back to you,” said Mrs. Alito. “And there will be a way, it doesn’t have to be now, but there will be a way, they will know. Don’t worry about it. God — you read the Bible — Psalm 27 is my psalm. Mine. Psalm. ‘The Lord is my God and my rock. Of whom shall I be afraid?’ Nobody.”
When the question about polarization came up, Mrs. Alito allegedly said leftists “feel … they don’t think,” then noted, “I want a Sacred Heart of Jesus flag because I have to look across the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. … And [Justice Alito] is like, ‘Oh, please don’t put up a flag.’ I said, ‘I won’t do it because I’m deferring to you. But when you are free of this nonsense, I’m putting it up and I’m gonna send them a message every day. Maybe every week, I’ll be changing the flags.”
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